I'm replying to your chat entry on house.ofdoom.com about the red bull.
To my knowledge there are 3 diff kinds of red bull...
1 US canned with taurine & caffine & etc.
2 Thai bottled with taurine & caffine & etc.
3 Thai bottle with-out taurine or caffine but with etc.
I've only found the 3rd kind here in Calgary, AB, Canada. It seems to me that it's obviously the taurine & caffine that is making red bull "all the rage". Can you get the t & c kind? If not, what about Theoplex or M-150?
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